Its all she says this and he says the opposite and vice versa at the Zondo Commission as Malusi Gigaba and his estranged wife Norma Mngoma testify.
When Malusi Gigaba was asked about the BMW 3 series that he allegedly received from the Guptas he denied owning such a car and instead pointed a finger at his wife.
According to Malusi, Norma is an extensive accomplished liar and can not be trusted. He said Norma had told him that she has a wealthy father who died and left her a hefty inheritance.
He went further to say that he later found out that the old man was her fiance living in Johannesburg and not New York.
Norma has hit back saying she has no idea what her ex husband whom she still lives with was talking about. She said Malusi was lying in order to avoid answering questions at the Zondo Commission.